daredevil muffin-y genius ([info]monanotlisa) wrote,
@ 2008-03-16 12:32:00
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Tibet, Darfur, and our reliance on face & voice
I had some pleasant chit-chat post planned yesterday--[info]grundbuch's & my trip to the movies, a review of No Country for Old Men, a praise of the mean Cosmo he mixes--but the news about the Chinese military killing eighty protesters in Tibet, the news about a 'people's war' declared against separatism, made me too sad and angry at once. And I thought about about these developments and my reaction.

Because we see citizens' uprisings and dictatorial governments brutally squashing them all the time on the news; what's different about Tibet? Maybe the level of individual familiarity and personalisation: Everybody knows the Dalai Lama, and most people are aware of his call for a completely peaceful protest against the occupation of Tibet. Shades of Gandhi, which by itself is powerful enough, but add to that the religious angle, the Buddhism element--no wonder that the juxtaposition of pictures of grim soldiers in uniforms brandishing machine guns and those of a smiling elderly monk in a humble robe evokes strong emotions in viewers.

But then, of course, we can rely on these viewers--the world is watching, not just faraway Himalayan cities but our Chancellor Angela Merkel as she welcomes the Dalai Lama to Berlin as well. Recently, the world could also watch Steven Spielberg, who brings in the second reason I started wondering: What about other atrocities in other regions; why do, Mr. Spielberg laudably exempt, so few people care about 200,000 people slaughtered in Darfur? The cynical answer is, of course, that there is next to no economic interest or other interest in the South of Sudan, where people live mainly on subsistence agriculture and which also isn't all that stable (understandably so, with the Janjaweed, Arab-speaking militia, raiding the countryside, and with 2.5 million people displaced, homeless).

But I still think there's more to it; certainly we have no mass tourism or even the precursor to that, romantic dreams of endless mountainsides and picturesque prayer mills, when it comes to, say, South American remote and almost exclusively native regions where international aid organisations, admittedly mostly through the Churches and around Christmas time, collect great amounts of charity funds each year. But then again, this is not about pictures of nameless victims with dirty clothes and desperate eyes that the camera doesn't capture for more than a moment. Instead, it's usually about lovely and adorable kids in ratty clothing. They themselves look straight at you, are sweet and hopeful even though poor, and they populate the leaflets or even glossy booklets that describe in heart-rendering detail the plight of one single family, one little girl or boy, and how helpful and needed a school, books, equipment would be. If I had a euro for every 'personal letter,' sometimes in a cursive handwriting font, for every real life story that a child in South America tells me, I could probably afford that kitchen blender I've had my eyes on for a while. (Sidenote: This may be too European a phenomenon, and perhaps even a little too Church-based, but it seems to be a candidate for Stuff White People Like.)

This is not to say I find this the real problem, I'm not even against this practice--it's manipulative and far from representative in any way, but it's certainly effective: It gives people in need of international help names and faces, distorted as they may be. They are carefully presented not as an all-too fleeting mass of people either frenzied or dulled-out by trauma, hunger, and sickness, none of which your average Westerner can relate to in the least. And that's not the issue; that's just human. What's inhumane, I think, is not trying to give the latter people, people in Darfur, for example, a voice: several individual voices--and then, of course, not to listen.

I'm not coming to any new conclusion here, I know; this has been said many times before, and by people far more knowledgeable (and able) than me. But I still think it can and needs to be said, and to come back to Tibet, I loved that the BBC interviewed a few Han Chinese living in Tibet--people whose storefronts were vandalised by a few of the protesters. As a German especially, violence against stores of an ethnic group is immediately suspect, and despite my immediate gut response completely and utterly in favour of the Tibetan people, I think it matters to see all issues not as two-sided but as multi-faceted as they are: Tibet doesn't just comprise smiling indigenous monks & farmers as opposed to violent Chinese soldiers; it's also home to migrants and traders, to civilians of varying backgrounds.

These are just excerpts, again, brief and fragmented for sure, but perhaps they're a start.



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[info]lavvyan
2008-03-16 12:01 pm UTC (link)
I think the kneejerk reaction to help people in need, who have lost their homes and possessions, by donating money strikes deeper if those people are the victims of a natural disaster. It's not just a matter of, "Oh, those poor people, how terrible to lose everything!" - it's also a matter of the cause of that loss.

If it's a natural disaster or poor economics, I (a figurative "I", mind) can donate to the organisation of my choice and then lean back in the satisfied knowledge that my few bucks will help rebuild that house or dig that well. Problem solved, and that the little girl with the huge dark eyes will smile again.

If it's war, on the other hand, I have no idea what the organisation does with my money. Feed and clothe the fugitives, obviously, but that doesn't mean they can go back home, can it? The war isn't over, the oppression won't stop, the little girl won't smile. The gratification, if you will, isn't apparent, isn't instant. My donation doesn't seem to solve anything.

Of course, that's just my take on it.

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[info]monanotlisa
2008-03-16 12:06 pm UTC (link)
I think this is true regarding donations--we can see, directly, where the money goes, and we see the immediate effects.

But as for sheer human interest, which my post was about? Effectiveness of aid and direct response possibilities pertain to the second step, action, and not the first step, interest.

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[info]lavvyan
2008-03-16 12:12 pm UTC (link)
Yes, of course. I just thought that there'd be more interest if people thought they could help in some way.

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[info]monanotlisa
2008-03-16 12:16 pm UTC (link)
You mean that the level of potential help we can do influences our interest? I rather think it's the other way 'round, but of course I'm not a psychologist. It's entirely possible that we see issues and, as soon as we realise they aren't easily solved, turn away in order to spare ourselves frustration (although cause and effect remain, just happen in quick succession).

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[info]lavvyan
2008-03-16 12:53 pm UTC (link)
I think it does. I think it is about the gratification we get out of helping, if only partly, of course. Maybe matters get more interesting the more we can participate in them and make us feel good about it.

Then again, I'm very obviously no psychologist either, so this is probably nonsense.

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[info]monanotlisa
2008-03-16 12:59 pm UTC (link)
Maybe matters get more interesting the more we can participate in them and make us feel good about it.

Participation is definitely a huge factor for me. I don't even watch sports that I don't also do in person--I simply cannot seem to care. Only huge events like World Championships and Olympic Games can overcome that.

And oh, psychology: At the crossroads of medicine and social sciences, it classifies and examines what we all think and feel, so I doubt that our musings here are completely invalid or unique. The utter universality and wisdom thereof, of course...yeah. Um.

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[info]viciouswishes
2008-03-16 06:45 pm UTC (link)
They have those sponsor a child in the developing world and get a letter from them thanking you in the US as well.

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[info]monanotlisa
2008-03-16 09:07 pm UTC (link)
I think I remember seeing these leaflets in the US, too, yeah. But it's just very, very common hereabouts, although admittedly I come from the demographic most likely to sponsor.

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[info]deepad
2008-03-16 08:51 pm UTC (link)
::Cough Gandhi Cough::

Well, apart from the new age good karma that Tibetan Buddhism has acquired, there remains the fact that, as China is seen as an economic threat to the Western world, it behoves the political and economic powers in that world to encourage its fringe hippies to protest against Chinese atrocities.

You'll notice that Myanmar (nee Burma) does not merit the same concern, since apparently either its monks are not sexy enough, or its dictators not oil-rich enough.

Not to mention how racism plays into the apathy about any violence in the African nations.

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[info]monanotlisa
2008-03-16 09:06 pm UTC (link)
the fact that, as China is seen as an economic threat to the Western world, it behoves the political and economic powers in that world to encourage its fringe hippies to protest against Chinese atrocities.

Oh, absolutely. That's actually a point I thought about post-posting & ;-) as one that warrants attention. Is it really any wonder that Westerners look at the emerging next superpower with significantly more worry than they look at Myanmar or Darfur? No matter how brutal these military dicators or Shariah-spreading "governments" are, they'll hardly rule the world in the foreseeable future. And I'm just like most Westerners in this regard: kinda into my (fragmented enough) rights, freedoms, and last but not least life.

You'll notice that Myanmar (nee Burma) does not merit the same concern, since apparently either its monks are not sexy enough, or its dictators not oil-rich enough.

It warrants considerable attention on a civil level in this country, although you're sadly right about the political or even military reactions.

Not to mention how racism plays into the apathy about any violence in the African nations.

You think there is more--or a different kind of--racism at play when it comes to Africa as opposed to Middle and Southern America or Asia? I honestly hadn't thought about that, but maybe that's true.

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[info]deepad
2008-03-16 09:51 pm UTC (link)
Yeah, I think there's a hierarchy of racism. Asia still benefits from the dubious burden of Orientalist beliefs about its 'ancient wisdom'. You'll notice there is more talk about exotic in relation to the wildlife and geography of Africa rather than its people. Black Africans have been systematically and pan-culturally dehumanised, and that racism still shows in how violence to their bodies is reacted to.

(Also, misspelling Gandhi is a pet peeve of mine :))

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[info]monanotlisa
2008-03-16 10:05 pm UTC (link)
...I should have let spell-checker run over this before retreating to the Sofa of Studying; my mistake!

Yeah, I think there's a hierarchy of racism. Asia still benefits from the dubious burden of Orientalist beliefs about its 'ancient wisdom'. You'll notice there is more talk about exotic in relation to the wildlife and geography of Africa rather than its people. Black Africans have been systematically and pan-culturally dehumanised, and that racism still shows in how violence to their bodies is reacted to.

That makes sense--there is far too little knowledge about Asian history but certainly a "feeling" of sorts that touches upon the impression you mention.

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[info]the_grynne
2008-03-16 09:40 pm UTC (link)
The difference with Tibet is that it's politically convenient... Not that it excuses in any way what the Chinese authorities are doing, but I kind of get their point when they accuse the Western media of bias.

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[info]monanotlisa
2008-03-16 10:04 pm UTC (link)
On a Future of the Western World Scale? Certainly. But it's always been my impression that "politically convenient" for my country specifically would be to stay back and be quiet, very quiet. The economic connections are growing and strengthening day after day, and we know how that has the funny effect of being reflected in a nation's foreign policy.

Also, while I'm not disputing a distrust of China in Western media, there's something about Tibet especially that goes way beyond "The Chinese are being nasty to some folks, which we'll use as an excuse to pipe up."

Because in addition to various Chinese people themselves being abused, we do have the Uigurs as another ethnically distinct people on the fringes being systematically oppressed, supposedly due to "separatism" and, of course, what with them being Muslim, "terrorism threats." This is known, but people don't care in the same way despite this being quite a similar issue.

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[info]acari
2008-03-16 10:46 pm UTC (link)
I think the interesting situation Germany is finding itself in with Tibet is being politically aligned with one side but having more and more growing economic connections and dependancies with the other. They have to satisfy both allies at once.

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[info]monanotlisa
2008-03-16 10:50 pm UTC (link)
I think the political alignment is owed to public opinion, though, and not a connection that goes beyond the human/itarian one.

But yes, you're absolutely right, and it accounts for the odd (lack of) action on part of our government.

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[info]acari
2008-03-16 10:37 pm UTC (link)
I have to say upfront that I am a huge, huge cynic when it comes to international relations, human rights and development aid.

I don't truly endorse the movie Hotel Rwanda (I felt emotionally manipulated, fyi) but one quote hits the nail on its head: "Nobody cares, because they are black. They aren't even African-Americans but Africans." I hold this to be utterly true. Africans are seen as brutal, ruthless and dumb. The world as a whole doesn't give a damn. Europe feels guilty for colonialisation and therefore feels the need to spent money on development aid, but has no problem using their spending as blackmail material if it suits them. China's heavy investment in African countries has clear economic and power reasons behind it, etc.

Tibet falls within the parameters of the Asian (South-East Asian is probably more accurat)stereotype of peaceful, gentle, meek, spiritual. It is very easy to feel for them, and with them. They are so cute and unthreatening. *eyeroll* It changes the more you move towards Arabia or look at countries that have a large Muslim community. Muslim Asians are a whole other ball game. They are scary.

There is one very well-known German political journalist, Peter Scholl-Latour, who for me embodies this. I hate him with the passion of a dozen blazing suns incidentally. The first book of his I read was about the Vietnam War and his brief captivity by the Vietcong. Throughout the book he characterised the people he met in very fond terms, how polite and gentle and kind they were. I never noticed how much his portrayal fit into the stereotype until I pick up another book of his about the Kongo and ended up so spitting mad I literally threw the book across the room. In only one introductary page he managed to fit in every single racial stereotype about black people.

He has since gone on to appear in post 9/11 talk shows and made documentaries and wrote books about the Arab countries and terrorism and culture clash, you know, the works. He makes me incoherent with rage. God sorry, tangent. I hate his stupid face.

It took forever for Dafur to become a mainstream-recognised issue. I am still waiting for people to care about Zimbabwe, for example.

It's all one huge double-standard. Take Kosovo. It makes my eyes roll back in my head I am boggling so hard.

Individuals may care about other indivuduals no matter where they are from, nations will shrug or only pay lip-service until it fits into their political goals. I mentioned the cynic part, right?

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[info]monanotlisa
2008-03-16 11:07 pm UTC (link)
I don't truly endorse the movie Hotel Rwanda (I felt emotionally manipulated, fyi) but one quote hits the nail on its head: "Nobody cares, because they are black. They aren't even African-Americans but Africans." I hold this to be utterly true. Africans are seen as brutal, ruthless and dumb. The world as a whole doesn't give a damn. Europe feels guilty for colonialisation and therefore feels the need to spent money on development aid, but has no problem using their spending as blackmail material if it suits them. China's heavy investment in African countries has clear economic and power reasons behind it, etc.

I wanted to watch it but missed for Exam reasons. And I'm sure there's far more truth than cynicism.

Tibet falls within the parameters of the Asian (South-East Asian is probably more accurat)stereotype of peaceful, gentle, meek, spiritual. It is very easy to feel for them, and with them. They are so cute and unthreatening.

Sadly, this may also go for South American native kids and their families. Yeah. (Although, distrust of the Chinese again doesn't work: not so much with the meek, eh?)

And oh, I know Peter Scholl-Latour (German here, remember? *g*). A religion teacher of mine pushed him heavily; I remember being creeped out when I heard about his later works but generally did trust neither the message nor the messenger back when.

It took forever for Dafur to become a mainstream-recognised issue. I am still waiting for people to care about Zimbabwe, for example.

I hear you.

That said, some things hit closer to home, so the double standard argument doesn't work for me because I consider the issues to dissimilar. For all the brutality of the authorities in Tibet or Darfur, the Kosovo is either still a part of Europe or right on our doorstep: One of the files on my desk pertained to a very sick nine-year-old boy born in Germany to Kosovo-Albanian parents, a family of six altogether; the file was so heavy that I had back problems after taking it home with me. It's far more immediate, and I would have even less respect for a for a nation or nation group that intervenes at the other end of the earth but lets its immediate neighbours die.

Individuals may care about other indivuduals no matter where they are from, nations will shrug or only pay lip-service until it fits into their political goals.

That...just about sums it up, I fear. Yes.

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[info]icarusancalion
2008-03-17 06:36 am UTC (link)
First, "Han Chinese" is like saying "Deutsch German." But it represents a certain political view in China that a particular ethnic group from a northern section (historically connected to the early Han Dynasty) is more purely Chinese, and this view projects that Chinese ideal over the many minorities of China, implying that all the minorities are irrelevant. The "Han majority" is the usual phrase, and I wince to hear it.

Second, the idea of "Han Chinese minority" in Tibet.

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Minority? China is sending vast numbers of Chinese to Tibet, overwhelming them. This has been going on since the 80s.

Tibetans are given a substandard education (Chinese do not feel that the quasi-barbarian Tibetans are capable of much; it's part of that lovely "Han Chinese" racism). Even if Tibetans go to good Chinese schools in China, jobs in Tibet are distributed through Chinese connections--which the Chinese have and the Tibetans don't. There is a huge gap between the wealthy Chinese businessmen seeking to make a buck in Tibet (and given healthy tax breaks and incentives to move there), and the impoverished Tibetans. Even the tours of Tibetan monasteries are run by Chinese. While Chinese have modern housing, the sanitation for the Tibetans is non-existent. There is a different standard of living for Chinese across every facet of life.

Tibetan Buddhism has become not just a religion but a symbol of Tibetan culture to the Tibetans, and an emblem of protest. China rigidly controls the numbers of monks and largely keeps them around as window-dressing for the tourist sites. But it's almost always the monks and nuns who lead the protests. When they're arrested, there are no controls on what the Chinese police do to them. I know a nun who had a cattleprod rammed up her vagina after she was arrested.

One bit of happy news. China attempted to gerrymander the borders of Tibet to make it seems smaller by calling the northeast and eastern provinces (Amdo and Kham) "China." That's falling apart as protests spread across all of Tibet. If those provinces are so Chinese, where did all the protesting Tibetans come from?

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[info]monanotlisa
2008-03-17 10:00 am UTC (link)
i would reply in-depth, for i knew only the surface level of this, but with the comp broken and me on my ipaq...later.

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[info]icarusancalion
2008-03-22 06:09 pm UTC (link)
China's showing it's colors and usual attitude towards Tibet:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080322/ap_on_re_as/china_tibet

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[info]monanotlisa
2008-03-22 08:14 pm UTC (link)
Yeah, it's being covered in the news here. & :-/

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